Toxic Life Podcast: Episode One

A Dirty, Dirty World: A conversation between with Françoise Vergès





In this episode of the Toxic Life podcast, co-hosts Krista Lynes and Ayesha Vemuri talk with feminist, decolonial scholar Françoise Vergès about her most recent book, "Making the World Clean: Wasted Lives, Wasted Environment, and Racial Capitalism" (2025). We discuss the racial and gendered dynamics of the work of cleaning, the denial of people's elemental rights to clean air and water, how an abolitionist framework is the answer to racial capitalism, and how we live with toxicity from a place of love.


Show notes:

Françoise Vergès, Making the World Clean (2025)


This episode was recorded on February 6, 2026.
Image description: An olive-green square with a translucent photo of Françoise Vergès, captured in her office while recording this episode over Zoom. Text reads, “A Dirty, Dirty World: A conversation between with Françoise Vergès”.

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The Toxic Life Podcast is co-hosted by FMS Director Krista Lynes and research fellow Ayesha Vemuri. Production and music by Piper Curtis.

Thank you to the members of the Toxic Life Working Group, our administrator Alba Clevenger, as well as the Feminist Media Studio and the Center for Interdisciplinary Studies in Society and Culture at Concordia University.

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